Mike finally crossed the denim line—he got the jorts. Meanwhile, Tony reflects on his own traumatic experience with cutoff jeans and why he approaches life like a man assembling IKEA furniture without instructions: slowly and thoroughly.

This week’s conversation ranges from the fires in Western Colorado to the chaos of the current measles outbreak (seriously, what the hell?). Mike breaks down the mobile game Last War Survival while Tony introduces his new podcast obsession: the one and only MrBallen, master of the creepy and bizarre. From Appalachian mountain mysteries to the tale of Oliver the Humanzee, the fellas dive deep, speculate wildly, and even fact-check live on the show.

We also revisit the ancient world through the foggiest lens possible, get Mike’s take on the new Jurassic Park movie, and check in on the Adnan Syed saga via Up and Vanished. Plus: murder, mystery, French fries, 7-Eleven, heart attacks, rage screaming, and one very poisonous grape.

How many grapes would you eat for $50,000 each?

Cheers!

m&t