Episode 264: Stats vs. Vibes: The Caleb Williams Debate

Episode 264: Stats vs. Vibes: The Caleb Williams Debate

Tony bikes to work in freezing weather, finally watches Whiplash (only 11 years late), and then accidentally starts the most heated debate we’ve ever had on the podcast.

A conversation about Caleb Williams and biased commentators turns into a full-on Bears vs stats showdown, with Tony making bold claims and Mike playing contrarian—with receipts.

We’ve never argued on the pod before, and this one definitely goes longer than intended. But after some real back-and-forth, we settle down, find common ground, and finish strong—talking Cowboys futures, strange NFL mascots, and the weird passion that comes with lifelong fandom.

Consider this a rare peek behind the curtain of a real friendship… heated moments and all.

Cheers!

m&t

Mike & Tony

A weekly long-form conversational podcast hosted by musician Tony Dollar and comedic raconteur Mike Pearce. Based in Denver, the show dives into life, music, current events, and all things weird, sometimes with guests ranging from musicians to artists, educators to comedians. Expect heartfelt reflections, unpredictable humor, and plenty of off-the-wall tangents that mix pop culture, personal stories, and real talk about life, the universe, and everything in between.

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